A circular of the Cabinet Secretary cry for Indian ministers in addition to officials non to attend a business office for the Dalai Lama inward Delhi, has been inward the news. While the arguing (and the MEA's kowtowing to China) continues to rage, it is interesting to expect at the transcript of a utter betwixt the Dalai Lama in addition to Jawaharlal Nehru, the Prime Minister on India. The encounter took house on Apr 16, 1961.
KL Mehta, Joint Secretary, Ministry of External Affairs took the notes. A couplet of weeks afterward (May 2), inward a ground inward the Lok Sabha, the Prime Minister was asked:
(a) whether the Dalai Lama visited New Delhi on the 15th April, this yr for having some discussions with him; and
(b) if so, what were the subjects discussed?
During the course of report of the debate, Nehru stated:
It is the normal exercise that when asylum is granted, it is done so land of report to whatever status that the dry ground may intend it necessary. The status is that the soil of their dry ground should non live used for whatever purposes opposed to them, which mightiness larn the dry ground into trouble. It is a normal practice.
This is soundless valid today, though at that spot are ways in addition to ways to position this inward practice.
Here is the transcript of the talks equally published inward the Selected Works of Jawaharlal Nehru (Volume 68, Series II). The subtitles are mine.
When Nehru meets the Dalai Lama
Introduction
The Prime Minister received His Holiness the Dalai Lama at P.M.'s House on Dominicus Apr xvi in addition to the talks lasted for over ninety minutes.
The Secretary General [RK Nehru ] was present.
Having thanked [the] P.M. for inviting him to Delhi, the Dalai Lama said that he had come upward to the conclusion that the only hope of preservation of Tibetan civilization in addition to organized faith immediately lies inward those Tibetans especially children who have got come upward to India.
The object of his see to Delhi, therefore, was to hash out with the Prime Minister the diverse of import problems dealing with the rehabilitation of Tibetan refugees with special reference to the drawing upward a suitable programme for the teaching of immature people, both boys in addition to girls below xvi years inward age.
The Dalai Lama added that equally for the rest, broadly speaking, only 2 schemes have got so far been finalised which cater for the rehabilitation of refugees equally agriculturists.
One of these was beingness implemented inward Mysore in addition to the other inward NEFA.
Nehru Speaks
The Prime Minister said that he wanted the Tibetans to grow upward equally an integrated community with due safeguards for the maintenance of their tradition, civilization in addition to religion.
He added that inward fellowship to brand a proper assessment of the work of rehabilitation, it was necessary to consider it inward 2 or to a greater extent than parts.
He was himself specially interested inward the teaching of the immature people, in addition to this, therefore, must assume topmost priority.
The Prime Minister wanted to larn far clear that the Government of Republic of Republic of India had the responsibleness to render teaching to every Tibetan kid of school-going age. The programme of teaching did non include simply primary education, but also secondary education, in addition to for those who would do goodness from it, University education.
He had no incertitude that the hereafter of the Tibetans inward Republic of Republic of India depended on the character of teaching given to them, in addition to it would live exclusively artificial to lay downwards an upper restrain inward regard to the issue of immature people to the educated.
The Prime Minister emphasised that the teaching should live good, with due regard to the traditional background of Tibetans, in addition to at the same fourth dimension modem.
It was of import to realise that whereas sort out schools volition live provided for primary education, in addition to also at the secondary stage, the syllabus would have got to live designed inward such a means equally to enable the students to bring together Indian polytechnics, in addition to those probable to do goodness from it also Indian Universities.
We could non plainly render sort out polytechnics in addition to sort out Universities for Tibetan children only.
Indeed having completed their secondary stage, it would non fifty-fifty live correct for the Tibetan children to stay cutting off from the residual of India.
The Prime Minister added that arrangements to render religious instruction to Tibetan boys fifty-fifty at the University phase could live made separately, if the Dalai Lama so wished.
It must live understood, however, that the educational programme for Tibetans should live drawn upward to ensure evolution of the Tibetan children along the lines of their genius, in addition to also to ensure that the actual teaching given was fully modem inward the feel that it equipped the boys in addition to girls to bring together Indian Universities in addition to Polytechnics inward due course.
The Dalai Lama speaks
The Dalai Lama said that he was inward total understanding with the sentiments expressed past times the Prime Minister. He added that at that spot were 3,000 Tibetan refugee children below the historic menses of xvi inward Republic of Republic of India at the moment. Arrangements have got so far been made to render teaching to only some 500 with them. He added that the assist of the State Governments concerned such equally Mysore, UP in addition to Punjab would live necessary inward running the schools, but at the same fourth dimension it was essential that at that spot should live a mutual approach inward running all the Tibetan schools irrespective of where they happened to live situated.
After some give-and-take in addition to after taking banknote of the fact that the Nursery School [started past times Tsering Dolma, the Dalai Lama’s sister] at Dharamsala is immediately running on the whole satisfactorily, in addition to that the United Kingdom of Great Britain in addition to Northern Ireland ‘Save the Children Fund’ Project, lately discussed inward Delhi past times Lady Alexandra Metcalfe [daughter of Lord Curzon, old Governor-General of India] is to live started shortly, the Prime Minister felt that the entire inquiry of drawing upward of a programme of teaching for Tibetan children including the opening of schools, the drawing of syllabus, the production of text books in addition to other such details, should live made the responsibleness of a Committee to live prepare inward New Delhi.
The membership of the Committee would consist of a instance each from the Ministries of External Affairs in addition to Education, in addition to instance of the Dalai Lama.
To these, representatives of the State Governments concerned, viz. Mysore, UP, Punjab, Himachal Pradesh, NEFA in addition to J&K would live invited equally may live necessary from fourth dimension to time.
This Committee volition brand policy, have got a broad discretion, in addition to accept necessary steps to ensure that the decisions of the Government of Republic of Republic of India inward such matters equally the opening of schools, the preparation of teachers are beingness carried out according to the approved programme.
The Committee volition have got a Special Officer on a whole-time ground equally its Secretary. This officeholder volition larn circular looking after the schools, liaising with the Dalai Lama, in addition to the State Governments concerned, in addition to to a greater extent than oftentimes than non to assist the Committee inward seeing that the decisions are beingness carried out.
The discussion
The Dalai Lama expressed himself wholly willing to give his fullest co-operation to the Committee in addition to to nominate his instance on it.
The Prime Minister directed me [KL Mehta] to telephone telephone on the Education Minister to inform him with the listing of give-and-take that had taken house in addition to also to seek his advice inward regard to the constitution of the proposed Committee.
The Prime Minister emphasised that this policy Committee volition consider the work equally a whole. The Committee volition also consider that what to do with Tibetan refugees inward the historic menses grouping of 16-20 to which the Dalai Lama made a special reference. It mightiness for event live possible to educate them equally technicians spell others may live flora jobs inward factories in addition to elsewhere.
To do a trust
In this connection, a reference was made to the Dalai Lama's offering to brand available a amount of Rs twenty lakhs for beingness spent on the teaching of Tibetan refugees during the side past times side four years.
The Prime Minister asked the Dalai Lama to consider whether he should non do a trust fund for the teaching of Tibetan refugees in addition to to a greater extent than oftentimes than non towards the rehabilitation of these people. This would ensure that the funds are properly invested, in addition to incidentally, this would also hateful that the profits would live costless from income-tax.
The Dalai Lama promised to consider this advice in addition to added that equally presently equally this 4-year menses was over, he hoped to earmark the profits of a pipage making mill inward Bihar, which he has already started inward Bihar, inward co-operation with Indian businessmen in addition to on the advice of an goodness from Chicago.
[A inquiry was asked inward the Rajya Sabha on May 1, 1961: “The Government understands that the Dalai Lama has invested some coin inward a Cast Iron Spun Pipe mill but have got no noesis of the extent of the investment.”
The Prime Minister gave an oral answer: “It is quite possible that unscrupulous people volition attempt to accept payoff of whatever seat similar that. But I have got no particular noesis of whatever particular laid of unscrupulous persons doing that. The Government have got given him full general advice suggesting that he should invest his savings or whatever he has inward reliable undertakings. That is all the Government has done. But, equally has been said, the Dalai Lama has started a cast Fe pipage concern for producing cast Fe pipes somewhere inward the Hazaribagh district inward Bihar in addition to he has invested some coin inward it.]
The Dalai Lama expressed his heartfelt thank you lot to the Prime Minister for his views on the teaching of Tibetan refugees in addition to expressed himself inward whole-hearted understanding with the PM's views.
Settlement of the refugees
The Prime Minister so touched upon the inquiry of small town of refugees, who would non live covered past times the teaching programme.
He said that nosotros should larn ahead with the small town of 3,000 refugees inward Mysore, in addition to when this has been completed accept upward with the Mysore Government the inquiry of settling some other 2,000 if non to a greater extent than refugees inward the wood areas nearby.
The Prime Minister gave his blessing to the proffer that a few to a greater extent than schemes on the lines of the Bhalukpung Scheme [A wood small town for 500 Tibetan refugees most xl miles from Tezpur] should live drawn upward in addition to implemented inward other parts of NEFA. Similarly, nosotros should re-double our efforts inward settling refugees inward Ladakh away from the border.
A reference was made to a recent proffer from the Sikkim Durbar that they would rehabilitate 1,000 to 1,500 equally agriculturists in addition to tea-growers inward Western Sikkim.
The Prime Minister enquired whether the promised system had been received from Sikkim.
The Prime Minister approved the proffer that efforts should live made with the Government of Kingdom of Bhutan to settle refugees already inward Kingdom of Bhutan in addition to necessary fiscal in addition to administrative assist given to the Government of Bhutan.
[KL Mehta intervened] Rukmini Devi [Arundale, Rajya Sabha MP] told me some fourth dimension agone that the Government of Madras would similar to assist inward the task of rehabilitating Tibetan refugees. Enquiries may live made from that Government whether they are inward a seat to brand dry ground available for the small town of Tibetan refugees.
Look after ourselves
Finally the Dalai Lama made a reference to the old in addition to the infirm who do non depend on anyone in addition to who should live looked after.
The Prime Minister felt that statistics of such people should live obtained in addition to steps taken urgently to render a domicile for them. This should live progressed farther inward consultation with the Dalai Lama.
The Prime Minister concluded past times maxim that it would greatly assist inward the understanding in addition to solution of the inquiry of rehabilitation of Tibetan refugees if the entire number, viz. 28,000 to 30,000 immediately inward Republic of Republic of India are divided inward diverse categories to decide how many with them would live absorbed inward schools, inward handicraft centres, equally agriculturists, equally workers on our route programme (and for how long) etc.
The lamas with the 28,000 to 30,000 refugees issue 5,000.
The Dalai Lama said that of them 1,700 are already beingness looked after past times Government. I mentioned that the required data nether diverse caput was available in addition to that this would live farther checked upward in addition to brought up- to-date inward consultation with the Dalai Lama.
Separately the Prime Minister told me [KL Mehta] that he was dissatisfied with the progress achieved inward implementing the programme of teaching for Tibetan children. He added that he attached the utmost importance to this inquiry in addition to wanted it to live known that the teaching to live given must live of goodness quality.
A alphabetic character to KN Katju, the Chief Minister of Madhya Pradesh
On Apr 24, Nehru wrote to KN Katju: “There was i affair I wanted to utter to you lot about, but forgot to do so."
The Dalai Lama was hither for a issue of days discussing with us the inquiry of rehabilitating the Tibetan refugees inward India. There is no chance, equally far equally i tin see, of their beingness able to return, to Tibet. I am peculiarly interested inward the boys in addition to girls receiving goodness education. Probably inward the hereafter these Tibetans who are immediately inward Republic of Republic of India volition live the only existent Tibetans left.
We are making special arrangements for the teaching of those boys in addition to girls. So far equally the Lamas are concerned, they are beingness settled inward 2 or 3 places close monasteries in addition to the like.
The Dalai Lama has been anxious to have got agricultural colonies of Tibetans. With the assist of the Mysore Government, nosotros have got got a goodness house on the uplands close Coorg, most 3,000 feet high, for such a colony of 3,000 persons. Over a chiliad have got moved at that spot already; others volition larn equally presently equally arrangements have got been made. Possibly nosotros mightiness live able to increase this issue to 5,000 inward Mysore. I intend this is probable to live a goodness colony.
But this does non exhaust the Tibetan agriculturists, in addition to something to a greater extent than has to live done for them inward the shape of colonies. The Dalai Lama peculiarly mentioned to me the possibility of some of them going to Madhya Pradesh. I told him that I would enquire
I desire to know from you lot if at that spot is whatever possibility of this.
It has to live remembered, nevertheless that they cannot live settled anywhere in addition to everywhere. They cannot stand upward the slap-up rut of our plains. They must, therefore, larn to a house at a fair height where the rut is non rattling great. Mysore has suited them to a greater extent than or less because it is 3,000 feet high. Also it is no goodness sending rattling minor numbers of them anywhere. The minimum issue for some form of a community life inward a colony would live most 250 families, making a total of about 1,000 persons.
I should similar to know if you lot intend this is at all viable anywhere inward Madhya Pradesh where these 2 weather condition tin live satisfied. So far equally the expenditure on such a projection is concerned, that volition live laid exclusively past times the Central Government.
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